Ok final stretch, I believe there is about 15-20 minutes left in this debate, Obama seemed to waffles on his stance about Public Financing but it doesn't appear to make too much of a difference, again Clinton doesn't attempt to hit Obama low at all. Obama still wins if it is a tie.
1st question Obama-W00t Hillary!
Obama's voting record more liberal than Teddy Kennedy. How will he unify country with such a record?
Obama says these ratings are silly. Gives example of something he thinks isn't liberal but was graded as liberal.
'The proof is in the pudding"- gross
Russia!!!!!!!
Hillary-Putin's successor is hand-picked. Clever but transparent way for Putin to hold onto power. Hammers Bush's Russian policy. She butchers his name, finishes it with "whatever" I hear a war already starting.
Obama-Bush neglected relationship with Russia as they centralized power. Have to change stances on human rights, etc.
Obama slurping the Clinton Administration about the work done in the Balkans.
Careers in Public Serive, any vote you want back?
Hillary-wants the Iraq vote back...no shit Sherlock
Hillary spreads her foreign policy wings, Darfur, Middle East, Central America
Obama-Terri Schiavo, wishes to have done something about that situation to stop government intervention.
Obama throws some love Hillary's way "she has campaigned magnificently". He loves her, he wants to kissss her.
Closing Questions(Obama goes 1st)
What question must Hillary answer to prove worthiness of nominee?
Obama side steps it, says she is already qualified but he thinks he can do better, spends rest of his time connecting McCain to Bush. He says he is better because he can bring America together in a unique way.
What question must Barack answer to prove worthiness of nominee?
HERE IS HER ONE SHOT.
She also side-steps it, says seating a women as President would be a big change. She says her experience is what makes her a better candidate. She is finishing on a soft note, must be going after those women who have left her, Obama split them with her 50-50 in the most recent primaries.
Well that is it. Overall I thought the debate was fairly boring and that means Obama wins. It was interesting to see how she played out each topic never really going after him. Keith Olbermann just said "it looks like they were scoring field goals not touchdowns" I completely agree. Now we will just have to wait and see. 1 week until the next Primaries, what some are calling Mini-Tuesday.
Showing posts with label Live blogging. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Live blogging. Show all posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2008
Live Blog-The Final Debate?
The 2nd half of the debate opens with Clinton's mocking Obama on the campaign trail.
Obama gives her points for delivery, but understands the broader point she is trying to make read: "Speeches, not Solutions".
This gives Obama a chance to run down his whole deal, I'm sure he loves this softball.
Personal story time, he met 4 women, at a table like this one...Russert is impressed.
Clinton's talks about the video.
She responds by talking about Health insurance.......i want to shoot myself.
Now Clinton gets to run down her whole deal, she is happy because she got asked the question 2nd.
Williams is really trying to pick a fight here, now showing Obama talking about Hillary using her 1st lady years to be "co-president"
"hope is not enough"-Obama, at least he knows
Obama slams Clinton on her special interest ties.
Russert hammers Obama on Public Financing. Basically that means each candidate (Rep and Dem) gets 85 mill to campaign with starter after the Conventions.
Obama waffles on this, and Russert let him go, interesting.
Russert to Clinton on her tax returns, why wot she release them?
Obama has but Hillary and Bill has yet to.
She will release them, "upon becoming the nominee or earlier"...it is already earlier Hillary.
Russert, will you release 10,000 pages of your daily calendar as 1st lady?
Clinton says yes but has not released it yet, she says ASAP.
Lewis Farrakhan makes an entrance, Obama denounces his anti-semitic remarks but doesn't say he denounces his endorsement.
Russert pushing Obama on issues with Jews, Israel.
Obama says he was a "stalwart" supporter of Israel. He has strong support from Jewish community.
He wants to rebuild the relationship among jewish americans and african americans.
Clinton piping in about her "similar" situation in her senate campaign, she says she did not want to be around anyone with such ideals...implicating denouncing Farrakhan isn't enough for Clinton.
They both agree to reject and denounce. Oy.
Break-time
Obama gives her points for delivery, but understands the broader point she is trying to make read: "Speeches, not Solutions".
This gives Obama a chance to run down his whole deal, I'm sure he loves this softball.
Personal story time, he met 4 women, at a table like this one...Russert is impressed.
Clinton's talks about the video.
She responds by talking about Health insurance.......i want to shoot myself.
Now Clinton gets to run down her whole deal, she is happy because she got asked the question 2nd.
Williams is really trying to pick a fight here, now showing Obama talking about Hillary using her 1st lady years to be "co-president"
"hope is not enough"-Obama, at least he knows
Obama slams Clinton on her special interest ties.
Russert hammers Obama on Public Financing. Basically that means each candidate (Rep and Dem) gets 85 mill to campaign with starter after the Conventions.
Obama waffles on this, and Russert let him go, interesting.
Russert to Clinton on her tax returns, why wot she release them?
Obama has but Hillary and Bill has yet to.
She will release them, "upon becoming the nominee or earlier"...it is already earlier Hillary.
Russert, will you release 10,000 pages of your daily calendar as 1st lady?
Clinton says yes but has not released it yet, she says ASAP.
Lewis Farrakhan makes an entrance, Obama denounces his anti-semitic remarks but doesn't say he denounces his endorsement.
Russert pushing Obama on issues with Jews, Israel.
Obama says he was a "stalwart" supporter of Israel. He has strong support from Jewish community.
He wants to rebuild the relationship among jewish americans and african americans.
Clinton piping in about her "similar" situation in her senate campaign, she says she did not want to be around anyone with such ideals...implicating denouncing Farrakhan isn't enough for Clinton.
They both agree to reject and denounce. Oy.
Break-time
live Blog-The Final Debate? Half-Time
As of right now, this race is exactly where it started 50 minutes ago. Obama is unscathed so far and Clinton is failing to inflict any damage. Healthcare dragged on FOREVER..AGAIN but other than that it has been pretty fair.
Live Blog-The Final Debate?
They both love new energy, they heart new energy big time. Wind, Solar, Hydro...it sounds like Captain Planet with Bio-fuel replacing the "heart" guy...he sucked anyway.
Williams quotes Clinton on comparing Obama to Bush and asks him what he thinks about his foreign policy credentials.
Obama brings up the Iraq vote, he trade mark by now, "$12 billion a month in a Iraq" he wants to take some of that and use it to pursue his Captain Planet Plan.
Williams asks if Clinton thinks Obama will be a good Commander-and Chief.
She mentions his 2002 speech, but said he didn't have a say in anything then meaning it meant nothing.
"He threatened to bomb Pakistan"....who wouldn't?
Hillary plays the first-lady card "been to 80 countries" also that she has been on the armed service board in the Senate.
Obama's turn: "I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war"..."this was a big strategic blunder"
Obama clarifies Pakistan stance. Says he would only bomb Pakistan if he had actionable intelligence and the Pakistani Government were not going to do anything.
Troop Withdrawl questions.
Obama-initiate a phased withdrawl, provide continued support, important not to be held hostage by Iraqi gov't.
Clinton-no military solution without full co-operation from iraqi gov't, 1 to 2 brigades a month.
Clinton goes after Obama on his seat on the foreign relations commitee, not holding hearings etc.
Obama says he has only been a chair in that committee since beginning of 2007 start of Presidential Campaign.
Clinton wants one more rebuttal but alas, NBC has to pay the bills.
Williams quotes Clinton on comparing Obama to Bush and asks him what he thinks about his foreign policy credentials.
Obama brings up the Iraq vote, he trade mark by now, "$12 billion a month in a Iraq" he wants to take some of that and use it to pursue his Captain Planet Plan.
Williams asks if Clinton thinks Obama will be a good Commander-and Chief.
She mentions his 2002 speech, but said he didn't have a say in anything then meaning it meant nothing.
"He threatened to bomb Pakistan"....who wouldn't?
Hillary plays the first-lady card "been to 80 countries" also that she has been on the armed service board in the Senate.
Obama's turn: "I was one of the most vocal opponents of the war"..."this was a big strategic blunder"
Obama clarifies Pakistan stance. Says he would only bomb Pakistan if he had actionable intelligence and the Pakistani Government were not going to do anything.
Troop Withdrawl questions.
Obama-initiate a phased withdrawl, provide continued support, important not to be held hostage by Iraqi gov't.
Clinton-no military solution without full co-operation from iraqi gov't, 1 to 2 brigades a month.
Clinton goes after Obama on his seat on the foreign relations commitee, not holding hearings etc.
Obama says he has only been a chair in that committee since beginning of 2007 start of Presidential Campaign.
Clinton wants one more rebuttal but alas, NBC has to pay the bills.
live Blog-The Final Debate?
"i always get the 1st question on all these issues" -Clinton
"if you saw the SNL skit you could see..."-Clinton
WAHHHHH get over it and get to the topic.
Hillary says she has ALWAYS been against NAFTA, I would bet Obama says something to contradict that.
Bingo here he goes. He mentions she was for NAFTA while campaigning for Senate in 2000. I'm sure she will also have something to say to that.
Hillary Clinton on Free Trade according to CNN
"Supported NAFTA while first lady but now believes NAFTA should be changed. During a 2005 trip to India, she stated, "There is no way to legislate against reality. Outsourcing will continue." However, during 2007 presidential debates, she said outsourcing was a problem. Would end the tax breaks that exist in the tax code for outsourcing jobs and have trade agreements with enforceable labor and environmental standards."
Obama according to CNN
"Would immediately call the leaders of Mexico and Canada to try to amend NAFTA. Would eliminate tax breaks for companies that are moving overseas. He stated, "We also have to have an intentional strategy on the part of the federal government to make sure that we are reinvesting in those communities that are being burdened by globalization and not benefiting from it."
Tim Russert is hammering Clinton on her prior NAFTA comments, trying to pin her down on whether she would get out in 6 months, she says no but wants to revise it.
OOOO she told Russert he doesn't have all the record!
Russert says Obama told Iowa farmers that NAFTA had some advantages in 2004, Obama says Clinton's response was right on. Use threat of opting out in order to revise it
"I want to be an advocate for workers"- Obama
BASH BUSH TIME, Obama gets the 1st whack at the pinata.
Clinton wants to make 5 Millions new jobs in the next 10 years!!!!!! Thats crazy!
Blame it on Bush, Clinton's turn.
"if you saw the SNL skit you could see..."-Clinton
WAHHHHH get over it and get to the topic.
Hillary says she has ALWAYS been against NAFTA, I would bet Obama says something to contradict that.
Bingo here he goes. He mentions she was for NAFTA while campaigning for Senate in 2000. I'm sure she will also have something to say to that.
Hillary Clinton on Free Trade according to CNN
"Supported NAFTA while first lady but now believes NAFTA should be changed. During a 2005 trip to India, she stated, "There is no way to legislate against reality. Outsourcing will continue." However, during 2007 presidential debates, she said outsourcing was a problem. Would end the tax breaks that exist in the tax code for outsourcing jobs and have trade agreements with enforceable labor and environmental standards."
Obama according to CNN
"Would immediately call the leaders of Mexico and Canada to try to amend NAFTA. Would eliminate tax breaks for companies that are moving overseas. He stated, "We also have to have an intentional strategy on the part of the federal government to make sure that we are reinvesting in those communities that are being burdened by globalization and not benefiting from it."
Tim Russert is hammering Clinton on her prior NAFTA comments, trying to pin her down on whether she would get out in 6 months, she says no but wants to revise it.
OOOO she told Russert he doesn't have all the record!
Russert says Obama told Iowa farmers that NAFTA had some advantages in 2004, Obama says Clinton's response was right on. Use threat of opting out in order to revise it
"I want to be an advocate for workers"- Obama
BASH BUSH TIME, Obama gets the 1st whack at the pinata.
Clinton wants to make 5 Millions new jobs in the next 10 years!!!!!! Thats crazy!
Blame it on Bush, Clinton's turn.
Live Blog-The Final Debate?
Obama addresses the mail out flyers and then turns it around to mention Clinton's flyers in Iowa and South Carolina. And now he mentions HIS healthcare plan.
Clinton has a rebuttal about her healthcare now.
and now back to Obama.
Back back and forth and forth, back back and forth and forth....this is like a Wu-Tang song.
Bottom Line: Clinton wants to mandate healthcare for everyone, garnishing wages if you don't buy it.
Obama wants to make healthcare more affordable but doesn't want to mandate it for all, leaving out the 15 million people Clinton always quotes.
The longer this discussion goes on the better it is for Obama, the more he talks the more he proves he has some substance on the issues.
Hillary talking over Obama.
16 Minute discussion as Brian Williams points out....time for NAFTA...WHOOOPPPEEEE
Clinton has a rebuttal about her healthcare now.
and now back to Obama.
Back back and forth and forth, back back and forth and forth....this is like a Wu-Tang song.
Bottom Line: Clinton wants to mandate healthcare for everyone, garnishing wages if you don't buy it.
Obama wants to make healthcare more affordable but doesn't want to mandate it for all, leaving out the 15 million people Clinton always quotes.
The longer this discussion goes on the better it is for Obama, the more he talks the more he proves he has some substance on the issues.
Hillary talking over Obama.
16 Minute discussion as Brian Williams points out....time for NAFTA...WHOOOPPPEEEE
Live Blog-The Final Debate?
Brian Williams and Tim Russert are the moderators tonight. Brian Williams looks like he is an anchor robot: perfect hair and monotoned, right out of the factory.
They open the debate with a montage of Hillary's different outbursts starting with the ending of the the last debate into the flier waving tirade.
Hillary defends her healthcare plan and wishes to have a debate without and falsehoods.
Obama takes Clinton's word on the "Obama Dress Photo"
ANNNDDD were off on healthcare...again
Live Blog: The Final Debate?
Here is the 1st post of what I assume will be plenty tonight as I go over what is happening blow by blow.
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